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June 8th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
lol ok if a poker site’s headquarters is in a shoping mall in Costa Rica…gues what? Don’t play on it b/c people are cheating and it’s not legit lolololol
June 8th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
It’s online gambling folks. GAMBLING. It’s illegal. If you lose your money, tough shit. You were the one that initiated the activity.
June 8th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
so they are benefiting from the system that they are against?? im confused…all im saying is their entire race was pretty much marginalized in every way imaginable..they have almost no culture left to speak of, thats pretty frickin awful…btw ru japanese? random but i thought u might be cuz ur name..
June 8th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
@kinnokaizoku but it must be quite hard to play as if you didn’t have the information.
Anyway I agree with you, if you are already a good player, cheating becomes much less suspicious. Specially if you know how and when to take advantage of it.
June 8th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
@kriptonis
You’re right about needing to lose pots on purpose. But the way you’re describing isn’t quite correct.
What you actually need to do isn’t quite so simple to go undetected. What you would need to do is to be good enough to actually win fairly consistently anyways (which is where I’m at) and play mostly the way you would without cheating. Then you would pick some opportune and not overly obvious times to use your advantage, so to maintain the playing pattern of a good player.
June 8th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
@stanky212
This has to be the most idiotic thing I’ve read today.
I have several native friends, in fact, and none of them take the victim perspective, and as a result, they’re all earning lots of money and living very good lives.
Partly because they pay virtually no tax. Get over it. And I put it a lot gentler than they would. They’re really pissed at all the natives that play the victim card and are just degenerates on the reservations.
June 8th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
All I gotta say is, the Indians were ruthlessly massacred and forced to live on reservations, the least we can do is let them cheat a little on online poker…thats all im saying, put it into perspective.
June 8th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
that’s not true. I know a few online players that win consistently.
They don’t cheat. They just play the game and win most of the time.
How do you discern such a player from another one: a cheater that wins on the same rate? It’s impossible.
If it’s a good cheater, he’ll lose some pots on purpose, to avoid being suspicious. After loosing several low pots, he wins a huge pot that gives him profit.
Or the opposite. Loses a big pot, and then wins several small ones.
June 8th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Lucky streaks will eventually reveal themselves as luckystreaks and die if you play 65000 hands. Cheaters won’t.
June 8th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
what if someone really has a lucky streak? How do you separate the honest player that got lucky from the cheating one?
Unless they are greedy and blatant like this one was, you can’t separete them. If I loose 40% of the time on purpose, just to win the other 60%, how can you know?
June 8th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
normally best customers are ones who spend more and frequently; higher stakes=higher rakes
June 9th, 2010 at 12:31 am
Gotta love at about 1:10 how the toolbox says that the money was stolen from the “best” customers. Yeah ok. Those best customers are the ones that make them the most money? Yeah I think not. It’s the millions upon millions of low stake to medium stake games. Do some research fool.
June 9th, 2010 at 12:54 am
hey your not god to judge anyone god bless you
June 9th, 2010 at 1:47 am
It’s in all the sites best interest not to cheat. I believe strongly that this is an isolated incident. Absolute Poker is losing a lot of money (more than they would have gained by cheating) because of the scandal.
June 9th, 2010 at 1:52 am
Which once again proves my point that all fat people lie! (and cheat!)
June 9th, 2010 at 2:45 am
his considerable weight in silver lol
June 9th, 2010 at 2:47 am
thats stupid… black jack is considered a game of chance but you can cheat at that. In fact you can alter your odds in almost any game of chance, such a making one side of a quarter heavier, then flipping it and saying flipping a coin is no longer chance. the reason online poker is illegal is the US has certain companies in Vegas that would like to see online sites disappear, and these componies are linning the pockets of many politicians
June 9th, 2010 at 3:19 am
.. Its not just UB and AP….
look at this shit man online poker looks like… Its run like a secret society or some shit……
.. I stopped playing online, I love poker, but ill only play Live
June 9th, 2010 at 3:35 am
You can’t set it up in the US.
June 9th, 2010 at 3:58 am
potripper u’re going to hell mother fucker!
June 9th, 2010 at 4:14 am
who wouldve thought the very best argument for legalizing poker in the US that ive ever read would be a youtube comment?
June 9th, 2010 at 4:16 am
very good point
June 9th, 2010 at 4:50 am
I think the US government has the answer to the most important poker question facing them today: Is poker a game of chance or skill? If poker were a game of chance, no one would be able to distinguish a pattern of cheating. Since they did, poker must be a game of skill.
Woo Hoo!!!!! POKER IS LEGAL IN THE US!!!!!! Yayyyyyyy!!!
June 9th, 2010 at 4:52 am
It seems pretty easy for the poker sites to add code to their software that automatically analyzes each individual account for statistical improbabilities and anomalies to identify players who might be cheating. Why don’t they do this!? Should be mandatory! Plus, you’d think if one of them did and advertised it they’d get more business than the others…
June 9th, 2010 at 5:40 am
Great point, philoscholar. There is no way to catch a team of people, who are connected to each other by phone, from collusion during cash games. At least not until they have been doing it for a while.